True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek, Discovery DocumentsEx husbandLeonard King. She wasn't some hermit shut in who posted incessantly on DL. I think he was planning to make it look like an accident, that Shanann Wayts came out looking for him, to confront him about his affair maybe. He described how he did it. 107: Chris was cheating, so he had no power. click ACCEPT. With the anticipation of her son to join them she knew he would be loved by his sisters and family. In a video posted online of her 34th birthday celebration, Shananns little girls, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, sang a sweet rendition of Happy Birthday to their mom as Shananns own mother, Sandra Rzucek, joins in via Facetime on Shananns phone. Study up! Ill correct this post if I have to - its a three -way conversation with Shanann, Cassie, and Nickole so its confusing. Jesus Christ dangling from the cross what is wrong with some of you. She had sold her mansion in NC after they hightailed it outta there, in a hurry. She was desperate when she realized he was done. Shan'ann Watts tells her husband: "I don't want a video of you" while recording her children Chris Watts Case: What would Sherlock Holmes Do? Shanann was still very good friends with her ex husbands mother too. Likely when Chris did the same thing to her she may have had some insight into herself, that this is what happened with Leonard, which caused her to try her hardest to get Chris to talk to her. With Shanann (disclaimer: no, of course she didnt deserve to die!) Happy deathaversary, Shanannanananananana!! THIS IS TOTAL LEFT FIELD.. Grahm Coder says repeatedly, Help us bring them out of the cold." By Amy Mackelden Published: Oct 5, 2020. He mentioned the girls mimicking Shanann, in that they threw chicken nuggets at him, so maybe it was all rage against Shanann and her public humiliations? Not for one second did I think that the big confession Watts gave cops would be so brutal and nasty. I thanked LEONARD for his time. I started a post on them but apparently they are not as fun to satirize as Shannan. LEONARD reported that he and . At home they would be in different rooms and she was always too busy for what LEONARD had going on. Over a similar if slightly shorter span of time, Chris Watts moved 7 times, averaging about a move per year. Please click here to register for free. No, but the evidence to support it is in the discovery, R261. He assumed that SHANANN kept her policy and would have changed the beneficiary. Mother of Bella Marie Watts; Celeste Cathryn Watts and Nico Lee Watts See home details for 19398 Hathaway Ln and find similar homes for sale now in Warrensville Heights, OH on Trulia. Its pretty simple. Probably. Police say that Christopher Watts, 33, was arrested in connection with the murder of his wife, Shanann Watts, 34, and two daughters, Celeste and Bella, ages 3 and 4, according to police . I asked about SHANANNs skills in conflict resolution. In 2018, husband and father Chris Wattswas arrested for murdering his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and their two young daughters, Bella and Celeste, in Colorado (via Oxygen). Like he wanted the toddlers to suffer. The reason I halfway believe her is that her description fits exactly a couple I know IRL. And no one to root for except those poor kids. Shannan and the ex's wife were FB friends, she signed her up to Thrive but she didn't do very well with it. SHANANN was in high school when LEONARD first met her. I followed the Hart murders, too. First of all, its doubtful a 100k surgery, or whatever, resulted in a 25k debt. She was a little grifter bitch. i saw a video where Shanann was making protein snacks with that thrive shit and said they were for the whole family to eat. He refused to hug me after he said he will try to work it out! I also think those same things motivate him to not be completely truthful about his true motives, etc. That's twice a year every year for 10 years. And everything is LUPUS. Her story is that of the majority of bisexual men living a lie. 25 Feb/23. The girls needed two years of doctor visits before they finally received the correct diagnosis of asthma (the diagnosis was made by a PA). But OH MY GOD! shit, and Chris made, what around 90,000 a year? Also said that she claimed to have been a domestic violence victim but was friendly with her ex husband. Lupus usually involves disease and loss of major organs. Rims, tinted windows, etc. An accomplice would have driven her car out to the site, they would have detonated the explosion and voila. LEONARD does not believe that the divorce decree addressed the life insurance policies. Bella especially went through absolute hell. ", Weeks earlier, while she was in North Carolina visiting her family with daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, she wrote to Chris: l realized during this trip whats missing in our relationship! But the whole "act of passion" angle doesn . LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. She tore through life, grabbing grabbing grabbing, and demanding. But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. If you look at his fb page, shes still on his friends list. I also think she used her physical hardships once again to play on his sympathies, sort of like a book of struggles, but he had already turned a deaf ear. Everyone was a useful idiot, to her. Also, the surgery was in autumn, 2017, two years after the 2015 BK. From the more than 2000 page discovery file published by the DA months ago. R199, I saw that. I can only imagine the medical problems that Nico would be born with R231, yes! No doubt he snapped. R111, no-fault; yes, regarding reasons for separation and division of assets. LEONARD does not believe that the divorce decree addressed the life insurance policies. I thought it was very telling of Scam'Ann's personality: SHE, and she alone, will lord over the money; yet, she was such a financial liability that her name wasn't even on the house (and I'm assuming the mortgage.). Where does the need to reinforce someones mistake come from? I do agree that Kessinger had more involvement than she pretended. Learn the difference. R181, basically what we already knew. If Shanann was a horrible person to some it doesn't mean she killed her children when so much premeditation seems to be at hand. A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. R130: if you read the discovery, Shannan was willing to change. She left home again to attend a quick work trip on Aug. 10, returning home just before 2 a.m. on Aug. 13. LEONARD had heard that SHANANN was really involved in Thrive. Together with the idiotic sheriff from the Jayme Closs story, I cannot help but think, "Holy crap, Law Enforcement in this country is populated with total idiots.". Hello and thank you for registering. Daughter of Private and Private She did everything to come across as the perfect, crunchy-earthy, cool progressive lesbian mom. She did not "purchase" any house. (ThePilot.com reports Leonard T. King, plaintiff vs. Shannon [sic] C. King, defendant in Moore County, North Carolina, Public Records - May 3, 2009)They had no children from their marriage together and have not communicated in over ten years he estimated. murdered both kids, killing the one though she fought him, I think it's safe to say he wasn't interested in being a parent AT ALL. Directed by Jenny Popplewell, the 82-minute true crime film uses social media footage and text messages to establish the appropriate context for the familial dynamics. No, not at all R256. It makes the story a little more interesting, that she wasn't the perfect victim. The only other option would have been for Chris to be full-time parent. R253, whats the Anadarko lawsuit angle? Chris had a gold policy through Anadarko. I agree CBH. Does anyone think Shan'ann killed her ugly kids, like Chrissy claimed? Shanann Watts, 34, posted the creepy image to Facebook on August 9 She appeared to think her daughters, ages three and four, posed the doll Shanann and the two girls were all killed days. Or maybe it was a way to get bill collectors off her tail. Men are just disposing of women like theyre garbage. But Good Lord - Cassie and Josh MOVE IN? I asked LEONARD about his relationship with SHANANN. On Feb. 18, over a span of five hours, Watts shared with investigators more disturbing details in how he killed his wife, Shanann, and their two daughters in August 2018. John Forbes officiating. KILLER dad Chris Watts revealed grisly details of his pregnant wife's murder in a bombshell prison letter, according to reports. They withdraw and distance themselves. Then lived there as long as she could before filing bankruptcy. She was trying to be cool and ethnic with the new spelling and pronounciation of her name. Based on her Facebook page, Shanann Watts had it all: a satisfying career that allowed her to travel, two gorgeous little girls, a doting husband and a new baby on the way. Netflix viewers believe a murdered wife sent police a clue from beyond the grave after spotting something "creepy" in the doco about her brutal murder at the hands of her cheating husband. R154: why did Chris have her sell her house, drag her across the country, purchase a $400K house he could not afford in his name only, then murder her and their children? Shanann Watts was about 15 weeks pregnant when police say her husband, Chris Watts, killed her and their girls Monday, Aug. 13, 2018. The apostrophe made no fucking sense. I asked about SHANANNs skills in conflict resolution. Guaranteed she didnt make enough to support herself, she needed Chris pay to keep her illusion going. From all that we know, that sounds exactly like CW, and shrinking-violet SW was being dragged along and acquiesced to whatever her man told her to do. He is a greedy as fuck sociopath. Do not let your spouse engage in financial infidelity and ruin you! Anyway, its amazing that theres another chapter to this story; I wonder what the CO investigators could have possibly flown out to Wisconsin to hear, or what Chris could possibly think is big enough to have them come out there for. Im linking the other active DL thread (focused on Chris Watts) below. R220, did you see that house? She left her own recorded testimony and out of her own mouth she indictes herself. All until they were diagnosed w/asthma then Shanann w/ her neck surgery which out of pockets 25,000. Think hes still lying about some details? Had Chris had 30k of his own liquid funds for the divorce and post-divorce actions, he couldve gotten primary physical custody of his kids, since Shannan wouldve no doubt engaged in parental alienation, factitious disorder by proxy, and financial disaster. I also think those same things motivate him to not be completely truthful about his true motives, etc. Im not an expert, but I dont think asthma is terribly elusive (its not LUPUS). New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Chris would have been on the hook for everything. After the divorce, LEONARD kept his, but changed it to $100k and changed the beneficiary. She was a compelling personality. I thought, "huh. She talked in one of her videos that Chris accompanied her to a colonoscopy as one of their first dates. In a new documentary from Netflix, newly revealed letters and texts show that Shanann had no idea that her marriage would soon turn deadly. Spot on r147. LEONARD said that people liked SHANANN. Connect to the World Family Tree to find out, Source: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/192280780/shan_ann-cathryn-rzucek, Jan 10 1984 - Passaic, Passaic, New Jersey, United States, Aug 13 2018 - Erie, Boulder, Colorado, United States, Bella Marie Watts, Celeste Cathryn Watts, Nico Lee Watts, Source: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/192280791/bella-marie-watts, Clifton, Passaic County, New Jersey, United States, Frederick, Weld County, Colorado, United States, Bethesda Cemetery, Aberdeen, Moore County, North Carolina, United States, North Carolina, Mecklenburg County Marriage Index, 1884-2019, Burial of Shan'ann C. 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