I would recommend buying a new and healthy tree within the next month and planting it straight away no keeping it for months on your deck first. As for the snow, we have had quite a bit of ice the last few weeks, and today it snowed in parts of the mountains, even in the valley (Pasadena/Rancho Cucamonga)! It just does not seem logical) But later I read, that often Fuerte is not a reliable cropper. Im jealous. I hope your trees grow lightning fast! In some parts of our garden, good rich garden soil was added in big quantities.]. Greg, The fruit has the same thick, pebbly skin as the Hass but has a little rounder shape. I live in Santa Barbara, CA just less than a mile from the ocean. (See more about Reed in my post, The Reed avocado tree: a profile.). The variety was developed in Australia during the mid-1950s and it became the main commercial avocado grown in . Theyre hard to find these days. A Florida avocado has the same kind of fats but in much lower quantities. Thats said, I learnt a lot))), At first I wanted to plant a Hass(A-type) and a Fuerte (B-type), because some people said they pollinise well each other (I read several articles about avocado pollination, though I still dont understant how an A-variety can complement a B-variety, if they do not flower during the same months?! Im also always unsure what Im going to find at these types of stores, which is why I always have a look when Im shopping there. I cant speak from personal experience about my own Sharwil trees because theyre too young, so this guess is based on what Ive seen in others Sharwil trees in Southern California. 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Learn how you can support The Yard Posts here. 3. . I fertilized more, watered less, and now its in perfect shape. Greg suggested me the Viveros Brokaw. The three more Guatemalan types get afternoon shade which I think helps since in recent years our summers are very intense much like inland Riverside and or Redlands as I recall with temperatures reaching well over a 100 more often than a decade ago. As for rootstocks, I havent seen them make a difference in my yard in terms of cold tolerance of the tree as a whole. I have been growing avos for 40 years. All the wood from the Gwen is going to the beach soon as possible for a bonfire. Im going for it! Wrapping the trees creates an oven. Thanks again for all the information. but Im not sure. Hi Greg, See if you can find a Reed to try again in September and youll probably get a richer flavor from it. Once you exclude the fiber, a whole avocado is simply 2.6 grams of net carbs. What would be smarter choice? The fifteen-gallon avocado trees Ive planted have all continued to be far bigger and productive earlier than five-gallon trees planted at the same time. I also like Maddock. I have a spreadsheet of many varieties and their seasons and how they all align based on flower type. Thanks, Keith. You might be able to find a Gwen to taste at a farmers market somewhere nearby around now and through summer. Not always, but usually. ), (See more about Fuerte in my post, The Fuerte avocado tree: a profile.). If I had the space for three avocado trees, I would add a Fuerte to the mix. But this is just theory, and I lack experience in so many other aspects of gardening. About the winter/spring varieties that you mentioned: I dont know how much heat Wurtz can handle. Fuerte and Nabal are both well known for alternating in this way. Whats Reed like? Let me know how the grafting and new trees go, and share photos of the cut fruit if you get a chance. Persea americana x 'Mexicola Grande'. A couple other options might be Fuerte and Bacon. Others have noted this since the early days growing Gwen, and I have also noticed it in my tree. I write a new "Yard Post" every Friday. Edranol, Ettinger, Sharwil and Zutano demonstrated a closer timing to Hass than Bacon, Fuerte and Shepard . And I also hope for mild heat this summer! If they dont get a good start to life, they usually struggle forever. You just need to make sure that you plant on a mound. Thank you for your reply, After doing some research and asking question in my neighborhood the last couple of days, I found out that Im not the only one with this problem. Trees are medium growing and yield nearly year round. In August I managed to order more avocado trees directly from Brokaw (Spain). Thanks for the feedback. I already have lamb, fuerte, Mexicola, Pinkerton, Reed, wurtz, Sir prize. Plus 1 GEM, 1 Lamb and 1 Bacon. Wish Maddocks was open on the weekend so i could check it out. I read through your post on protecting avocados from the cold, so well be prepared for the cold nights next winter. The Different Types According To Region Of Origin Horticulturally, avocados are classified into three categories, based on the regions of their origin. I even made a chart a few years ago showing the harvest seasons of some varieties (in my post When to pick avocados), but Im not perfectly comfortable with it because every year is different and every yard is different, even within a small geographical area like a single county let alone all of Southern California. I live in Sunland, CA, in a very sunny area where the sun is strong all day. My Reed, as well as those I know nearby, does relatively well. Avocado flowers are cross-pollinated which means that developing independent genetic lines is difficult. Thats a cool question. Im about to head to subtropica nursery to buy three trees. Started producing at 3? Are they light producing or is that they are slow growing therefore they are light producing because they are small? But I have seen Holiday and Pinkerton. Even when it was 118 back in July 2018 I lost no Pinkerton fruit, and Ive seen a Pinkerton tree in Redlands that carried a massive crop through that same heat wave. I want to reorder a Hass (on Duke-7), as you recommended earlier. Its super helpful for us newbies . Variety makes a difference. The Nabal trees I know are not so wide spreading like a Fuerte, and neither are they more upright like a Bacon can be. It becomes hydrophobic whereas the mulch never does.) I wanted to tell you that it appears that there is a Fuerte/Hass cross in Lafayette which is in the bay but just over the hills and away from the fog. Tree 1: Im really leaning towards a GEM. Hey Greg, Ive got two Hass and one Fuerte. Flowering and pollination. Only Fuerte tastes good then, of those youve mentioned. Pollinators for the Avocado - Sharwill (B) Cross pollinate with one of these varieties for fruit set Avocado - Hass (A) $ 54.00 ($54.00-$79.00 choose a size) Most popular variety due to both its superior taste and excellent keeping qualities. At least I think it is a Reed, they said it was and it definitely looks like one from all the pictures. I just cant say for sure. Sadly, there are fewer and fewer every year. Please keep it up. I also have a Bacon way in the back yard mostly for pollinating. If ever back this way soon would compensate you gladly to do a quick evaluation of right and wrong approach here. It stops a month earlier than a Reed but the Fuerte starts up the next month. I have a place near my citrus trees. Where do you guys find Reeds in San Diego? Sharwil avocados are the only Hawaiian avocado authorized for shipment to the mainland of the United States. I also started hearing about a lunchbox avocado that is being developed for high density planting. The tree bears regular crops of large, round fruit of exceptional eating quality. Fuerte, Come to think of it, Id say Nabal fruits taste a tad richer than Reed, actually. impossible (or almost impossible) to ship American varieties from the US to Europe. I pre-irrigated and sprayed down the trees during the heat and prevented fruitlet drop too well. Maybe not the best. Congratulations on your house in Covina. dont know how to grow in your region, Our climate is supposed to be similar to South California (I have never been to California though))), we have no frosts, summers are a little more humid than in California. But now with youtube it has been easier to see what can be grown up here. The difference is that the A type trees have flowers that will open as females in the morning one day, close in the afternoon, then open the next afternoon as male and then close in the evening. You have me sold on the year-round Hass prospect. i have small seedlings of sir prize, stewart, lamb hass, and some hybrid unknown from home depot. It even has an upright variety (seedling actually) with a spreading variety (Fuerte), and it still works. Thank you so much for the great articles, and for your personal attention and replies. They had to prune three times per year, and still the production had declined since year nine. Avocado oils are considered heart-healthy and good for your skin. The wood is soft, the leaves are soft. i was thinking that maybe a gwen to help the sir prize and reed for stewart seems to be the right pairing, or should i think about redoing my variety selection? I will definitely stay in touch if any other questions arise. Hass beats almost everyone at the length of its harvest season. I planted a Hass and a Fuerte in a fairly small backyard in the Pt Loma/Sunset cliffs area. Its only the second time I have seen one in 5 years so I took it as fate and bought it to replace a Bacon I had which was burnt away by the sun yet I am convinced it was mislabeled and wasnt actually a Bacon. Very happy with my Zutano. Should we take all the trees out and start new? And then theres your commitment to pruning. They must look at my yard and think its disgusting! There are lots of other very good avocado varieties. Three, how big will you let the Hass trees get? However, they often dont have any in stock, which means your only choice is to put in a request and wait for delivery as you noted. http://www.riversun.co.nz/assets/Uploads/Avocado-Rootstock-Characteristics.pdf Spacing with the Hass is important as well. Yes, plant that Reed! Production is too low in California. GEM. In fact, Hass also produces more reliably than Fuerte in most places. The fruit is set in huge numbers uniformly throughout the tree. You might try spraying the undersides of foliage every week or so for a period in spring and/or summer to see if it makes a difference. I wish I could visit that old Puebla. Avocado - GEM - 3 - 4 feet tall Exotic Fruit Trees Limit 5 per customer. I have downscaled a bit.and now I have just 20 trees and 16 varieties. I cant imagine between them, my brother and I, that it will be a problem, lol. Pinkerton Avocado. I have bought a number of trees there. Pollenizers havent been shown to make much of a difference close to the ocean like you. As a matter of fact, choosing the varieties was just the beginning)))) Averages are higher in the winter, when I would be at a shortage if I were to get a Reed. Sharwil The most popular Hawaiian avocado and the only one certified for shipping to the mainland, Sharwil avocados are relatively large, green-skinned fruits descended from both Guatemalan and Mexican trees. We do occasionally get into the mid-20s F in the winter, but it rarely reaches 70F in the summer. The Florida avocado. I was also able to confirm that a huge tree in Napa which got me growing my own avocados was indeed a Puebla because of your video. The owners are nice and said I welcomed to the tree. My son, who ate it with me, called it the bestest avocado ever. (Though only a kindergartener, he has eaten his share of avocado varieties and actually has an opinion worth listening to!). I get my first 14th trees from 2 Spanish online shops and after a couple of months in the dirt and under mulch, all of them are doing fine: Eli also sells his avocados at farmers markets, and the one closest to you is in Corona Del Mar. Its good no doubt, but being the guy at Clausen told me it is the _best_ avocado, I was a bit surprised that it didnt have the high oil content like a Hass, it reminded me much more of a Fuerte, milder and more water based than oil based. Ive heard people say that too, but Ive never found evidence for it. Still, what most people prefer to do is plant multiple trees close together, even in one hole. In fact the tree might be a hundred years old and is easily 60 feet tall or larger. Greg, this is a great thread, thank you. years, 7 now. I decided to go pairwise; Im curious and want to understand whatre the best varieties to eat & grow here in our climate and my particular soil and I hope to avoid alternate bearing issues. When I walk around my neighborhood here in Sylmar, Its amazing how most people abuse their avocado trees by having their gardeners rake up those leaves as soon as they hit the ground. We had problems with root rot our persimmontree died of root rot). Many thanks in advance for your help and advice! I think they do not sell avocado trees on Dusa in nurseries, because it is still under licence (I had to pay a bit more for the patent and had to communicate to Brokaw the addresses of the orchards). Otherwise other avocado nuts (like myself) might annoy the generous owners of the mother tree. Both have excellent tasting fruit. Hass has the wonderful ability to mature its fruit and then hold them on the tree for many months, waiting for you to pick them. In fact, Hass also produces more reliably than Fuerte in most places. Step 5. Hi Thomas, And if I couldnt find a Fuerte, Id substitute a Pinkerton. And along with Reed and Hass, Id have a great threesome in a backyard because Fuertes season starts a couple months before Hass. Ive seen numerous examples of this throughout Southern California. Bonny Doon Avocado. Avocado varieties are of two flower types A or B and it has been observed in California since almost the beginning that A-type varieties fruit more reliably overall. There are so many in the Santa Barbara area. Hass beats almost everyone at the length of its harvest season. But the distinctive smooth texture and nutty yellow flesh of a perfect Fuerte is so appealing to me that I dont even want to adulterate it as guacamole. Type A flowers. so youre saying when im trimming my own trees each year that i can just ask them to just dump them in my driveway so i can use it as mulch too? GEM could do well for you, as could just about any other variety. If there is excess moisture, your Hass avocado tree might suffer from root rot. The flesh itself has a mild taste and is quite watery. Other A-type avocados that are naturally on the relatively small side and produce well and are good eating include: Pinkerton, Lamb, Reed, and Gwen. In the meantime, well work on protecting it from sunburn when it hits 100 F or 110 F in a few months! I have records of the bloom seasons of all of my trees, and Id be happy to share about specific varieties. (Actually, Lamb drops more fruit in spring compared to Reed. I think Bacon and Lamb are good choices. Its a sad fact. those seedlings are just what i was able to get locally that have excellent flavor from what i research online. The fruit is the 'Hass' type, with a pebbly green skin that ripens off the tree to nearly black. Better now than never. (This is June 22, 2019.) After watching your wonderful Fuerte tree video I was inspired and replaced my young Ettinger for the real thing besides Fuerte might be my personal favorite flavor probably because I remember the taste of Fuerte guacamole as a kid. Its me from up North again. Im torn though We have a small space with good sunlight and drainage in our yard that is probably 12 x 12 for this tree. (Not that Pinkerton avocados arent delicious though. We will also compliment with other varieties to have ripe fruit all year, (varieties including malama, yamagata, ota, murashiga, kahaluu, fujikawa), for value added products. Looks like my own graft will take. 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