The G in freemasonry stands for generation. Why would anyone who follows Jesus Christ care what Generation Church thinks about anything? And he was the elder who insisted that scathing letters written by former and current staff at Harvest actually reached the members of the board. And were like, boy, I hate to say this, but that just felt demonic. And I hope I hope that a lot of people have read that and they dont owe me anything, but I hope its been healing to them. I had asked one of the one of the people on the reconciliation team earlier that day, I said, Im going to go into a meeting with James McDonald and I need I need to have the letters I need to know. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. But he demanded that he be flown home on a private jet. This wasnt anything else. Yeah, yeah. Its not being nice, polite, or inoffensive. Yes, yes. But he starts arguing process. Think Ill go preach at my cat nowhe has huge ears & better discernment than those willfully cowering in the open cage of the corporate state-church. But over there, you know, I, you know, six, seven people who had read the letters, probably more than that by the time, and we talked about what was in the letters. And were talking about a private jet. According to anindependent auditof Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. To donate, click here. Maybe if the shoe was on the other foot and the men were the ones being abused we might hear them singing a different tune. But according to a recent email by MacDonald, he's a victim of defamation by an "envious child"and needs your money "to rebuild." "Tragically . May 19, 2021 10:53 am To some former Harvest Bible Chapel insiders, Rick Donald was not just James MacDonald's right-hand man; he was also his "hatchet man" or "smiling assassin." Load more And I know its cost you personally. There was just an absolute refusal to rebuke him publicly. Other posts decried abortion, transgenderism, and Christians who are apolitical or nice.. And when I read that, I just shook my head. There is a solution for our sin in Scripture. So its critically important that the truth be told. There was just enough false doctrine so that it was swallowed up with the truth. uterus or clean out a womb after a stillbirth (because these treatments are labeled abortions, and even that word brings out comments like yours). Ministry News. And you then forwarded them to the elder board. Also, if youre in the market for a car, I encourage you to check out my friends at Marquardt of Barrington. And there were several of us saying, you know, looking at I Timothy 5, looking at Hebrews 13:17, which tells us that elders are going to give an account. And there was just this push against a public rebuke. But this is a story that just is not going away. That would be acceptable teaching. I knew that there were hundreds of people, probably more, that were hurt that all this stuff happened. We dont know what it would look like tomorrow. Divorce sadly acknowledges the truth. Following allegations of years-long bullying and financial misconduct, the lead pastor and executive team of an Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch, Everyone was laughing and goading, like it was a jokeuntil it wasnt. Its phrased to make you feel morally superior. Then let me just ask you from the start, why are you doing this? Because I believe in the church. Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Part II, Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Escaping & Healing from Abusive Churches, Part 2. Gary Weigel, if you total all the expenses including vet bills, it might be more than a tithe. In 2018, Roys' journalism exposed the now-former senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel (HBC) James MacDonald for his aggressive leadership style and abuse of the church's finances. . She was powerful and wise., Similarly, popular marriage and sex author, Sheila Wray Gregoire, wrote to TRR, The idea that a man can only be happy in a marriage when a wife is weaker than him shows that his idea of manhood is an extremely fragile one., As reported by TRR earlier this week, Visconti has publicly announced that he is being mentored by James MacDonald, and MacDonald has preached at Generation Church numerous times this past year. He further claims Harvests elders crafted false accusations against him as a pure act of vindictiveness to cover the churchs looting of his former broadcast ministry, Walk in the Word. But according. I mean his letter, not just talking about the abusive behavior of James, but the things he did with the money going on African safaris with the church money. What really caused Harvest Bible Chapel to fire James McDonald? Is that how it went down? Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? One is, I dont want people to give up on the church. Hes a deceiver. So so sorry for anyone who has had to face the James MacDonald storm. I agree. Thats what the weight was. What does the bible say about that? It was so much easier to read and understand. He was like he started appealing the process. I remember saying to the larger board, Guys, it is the grace of God that we have these letters. Yeah, I got sued, but the case got dropped. But to tell people they have to stay in a situation of violence, trauma and harm, or return to it, this is not a core tenet of Christianity. He would probably be wildly successful. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. So these letters, and this is what I found really riveting about your story, is when these letters were first given, as you said, they were given to pastors, with the exception of Sandys letter that went directly to you. Those are simply other examples of posts about controversial issues. And I know it was a battle. Thanks for for standing up for what was right. No One Knows. Again, only you and Mike Dunwoody, did that publicly. I dont know how many people had heard of it. And they are even beloved by God. And I got it. Hes talking about James McDonald, but not calling him out by name. And so she sent me a letter before it went to the elder board. James MacDonald (born October 4, 1960) is a Canadian-born evangelical Christian pastor, television evangelist, and author. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. . Lets try little role reversal here. It is grounds for separation but not divorce., This view is popular in fundamentalist Christian circles. Chicago-area Republic Bank has stopped foreclosure proceedings against disgraced celebrity preacher, James MacDonald, and reinstated MacDonald's mortgage on his $1.5 million Elgin estate. "Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald": Julie Roys' Response February 12, 2019 Cherie Vandermillen [Julie Roys] I never thought I would hear an evangelical, mega-church pastor talk about planting child pornography on the computer of an executive at a Christian publication. The elder board is still in the dark. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet., We are meant to set aside power and authority and serve one another (Matthew 20:25-28) as we are partnered together (Ecclesiastes 4:9-12), Gregoire added. Just look at King David . I followed his ministry for almost 2 decades. And again, this was on the churchs dime. No One Knows. If hes ok with lying it places doubt on the gospel. I shouldnt be doing this. And there was a voicemail from one of the pastors at Harvest, in a really sort of pushing for me to sign that put my name to that. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! Ugh. Yes, it is. Thanks that is hilarious!! God will deal with him. 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I remember talking and saying, guys, were all going to give an account to the Lord one day for what were doing in this meeting. If hes ok with lies, that calls into question everything he preaches. "I was sitting in the back seat. Thats what meeting and when youre in a conference called and youre making a decision like that, every elder everybody on the meeting on the call had to make right had the voice be asked any question you have. So if youre listening, you need and you havent read those letters, you need to go back and Dean Butters, I mean that one has to be just the emotional impact of the the bullying and the abuse, and then even a video where he mocked a very well known Christian leader because she was getting married in midlife for the first time and mocking her for never having sex before. It was positioned as an attack because the ministry was growing and those people were bitter, etc. So Rick was, in effect, the Assistant senior pastor. Whats wrong with Visconti supporting Kari Lake or speaking out against abortion or transgenderism? Christian counselor and author, Leslie Vernick, took exception to Viscontis post. June 17, 2021 James MacDonald, the former megachurch pastor who's been embroiled in scandal and controversy for several years, is lashing out against independent journalist Julie Roys. And I was muted on my phone. I was at work. She declined. And what happened in all the backroom meetings, private conversations, and phone calls leading up to that fateful event? If not, youre probably looking at what Paul latter in the chapter describes as an immature child. So that we could live in freedom. According to an independent audit of Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. Shame on you for reading scripture! So at the end of the night, no one got the letters. At the end of that weekend, before James MacDonald got fired in February 2019. Thats about my attitude lately. The text included the hashtags #gossipslut #gossipmonger #filthygutterwebsite #cancerinChristsbody., MacDonald also tweeted the invitation, referring to me as Julie Jezebel Roys.. Search my early tweet history. If youd like to find me online, just go to Julieroys.com. And she immediately said, Ill write a letter. For more information on Marquardt Buick go to buyacar123.com. And you know, Rick Donald was one of the people. When Christian leaders continue to teach that abuse does not constitute biblical grounds for divorce they are wrong, Vernick wrote. And I just felt this incredible weight. He could have apologized a long time ago, but nothing publicly. My husband and I pray that anyone who has been hurt or used by Im can heal. And scripture is really clear that its got to be, you know, two or three witnesses. Charles, But before I dive into my interview with Dan, I just want to take a minute to thank the sponsors of the Roys report, Judson University and Marquardt of Barrington. Thank you for loving the Church and the Lord God Almighty, to take the hard but righteous way rather than the hard way. At least some did. That this was all a plot by him that he was vengeful, towards James McDonald. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. James MacDonald, who was recently fired as senior pastor at Harvest Bible Chapel, is now facing an allegation of sexual misconduct by the church's former worship leader. And by the meeting that night, the executive committee came to the elder board with a unanimous recommendation, per the bylaws, that James McDonalds employment should be terminated for cause at that point. Harvest didnt know what it looked like to not have him as a senior pastor. He surrounded himself with yes men and used intimidation tactics to keep people in line. ( was spent) That seems pretty straightforward. Ill tell you one thing, Julie. The fruit which was souls coming to Christ was enormous. Six people who I doubt wherever actually all in the same room. What really caused Harvest Bible Chapel to fire James MacDonald? She first came to my attention with James MacDonald, then with Ravi Zacharias, and now John McArthur plus one of his side-kicks is in her cross-hairs. Of it could be that shes been taken in by him. Sandy talked about over the years, other staff members coming to her after meeting with James McDonald in tears, just crushed. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. It was a Wednesday or Thursday night on the Rolling Meadows campus. (Julie Roys) Eight years ago, prominent author and pastor, John MacArthur, strongly warned the Moody Bible Institute about its association with now-disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald. I payed for you and James. And her being in my house and literally shaking as shes recounting. Not everybody had the physical letters, but we talked through what was in the letters. So, Dan, thank you for that. So walk us through the drama of that weekend, James McDonald trying to save his job. He was an incredible communicator both orally and his deportment was engaging. This is James said what he said. It was a battle in the natural but more than that, there was a spiritual battle going on then, and I think its still going on now. Rick Donald said that that would make us the judge, the elders, if we had the letter. And then saying, I need a private jet to fly me home. And, and the drama begins. I did not cover my iniquity. Then the board announced its executive committee would be resigning over the next few months. There were times in the meeting where, you know, I didnt even know what gaslighting was. And I turned to Scripture, and I went to Psalm 32, where you know, the companion to Psalm 51, where Davids writing. So if you cant say anything, I mean, again, hes dismissive of the actual letters. My spouse and I and many others went to college with James in the eighties in Canada. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. year. He teaches that wives should endure abuse like a missionary endures persecution. And there is one thing we know about Satan. Hes like the whole the whole thing was about resigning. You can imagine it wasnt it wasnt long before the elders were, you know, talking and I dont remember the timing exactly. Then pray for all of us. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. And his email says, it seems we are being targeted. You have exemplified godly leadership and godly character. I asked Sandy Song to potentially write a letter. Well, and I remember, I remember this whole thing, because Im getting bits and pieces from different sources about whats going on and whats happening. harmful to the best interests, Disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, continued his tirade against me and The Roys Report on Tuesday, repeatedly calling me #JRgossipslut and asserting that I am, According to anindependent auditof Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. 2. I thought the weight was dealing with everything else in there was a weight, but that was the weight. I knew I had to do it. But for us not to act would be unbelief. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. But I knew I needed to do it. Unfortunately, immature children in grown mens bodies seems to be a thing now. And I said, Listen, I get it. Not long ago, I noticed that James MacDonald is still latched onto evangelical watchdog blogger Julie Roys as his number-one. Youre better off reading the Bible at home with your cat. I talked to other people who told me of demands that he made for private jets on numerous occasions. TED also reported that MacDonald's church Harvest Bible Chapel was $65 million in debt. We dont know how much the top people at Harvest make. It didnt sit right with me when I heard about it, that the church was suing you, and the Mahoneys, and the Bryants. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. They discuss the role of journalism as it relates to local churches and prominent leaders, and her her current work investigating Harvest Bible Chapel and Pastor James MacDonald. And at the end of the night, we looked around the room, we had talked through it. Pastor Platforming James MacDonald Says Strong Women with Weak Husbands Become 'Toxic' By Julie Roys December 22, 2022 5:39 pm CST 26 Comments Pastor Ryan Visconti of Generation Church in Mesa, Arizona, is attracting attention for his partnership with James MacDonald and provocative social media posts. In this episode of The Roys Report, former Harvest elder, Dan George, joins Julie to tell the real story of MacDonalds firing. There was a whole discussion about whether he was repentant and I said, I dont know, hes not repentant. On Thursday, Im in a meeting with him where honestly, Julie, they were trying to convince me and the other elders in the room that hadnt been in previous meetings to let him resign. Yes, I agree. But I think it was And anyway, hes fired. And Im just grateful that finally, the board, open their eyes. This is a story that directly contradicts what MacDonald published in recent videos and statements on his webpage. And then out of the blue, I get slapped with a lawsuit from James McDonald before I published anything. In June, he posted a picture with 2022 GOP gubernatorial nominee Kari Lake. Can you say what was in that letter? So then James McDonald flies in, right? *, In an email to TRR, Gregoire claimed that Viscontis view about women does not match the research. Great! Very sad situation for James and the elders as well. And so what Id like to do is just rewind a couple of years to fall 2018. And so we had a long meeting that Saturday to talk about what we were going to do. . You know, Ive been here the whole time. It just seems that the church of the USA is a joke. Guest Bios Show Transcript Many times, those who have experienced spiritual abuse are retraumatized when they try to speak about whats happened. But he said when he and Scott Phelps and Barry Slebaugh went into a meeting with James in the summer of 2012, asking for, whats your salary James? John MacArthur, for example, has preached, Scripture does not automatically permit divorce in the case of a physically abusive husband. Instead, MacArthur urges abused wives not to provoke any circumstances that will make your husband become violent. But if he continues to be abusive, The wife should remove herself from danger by fleeing the home if necessary.. . I said, again, please dont do it just because Im asking you. And I have, you know, probably probably six weeks later, less than, probably four weeks later or something I I apologized for signing that. Ive looked back at that email thread, Ron Duitsman who was the elder board chairman, resigned that day. Well, youre welcome. And Stetzer is a huge, huge part of the crooked machine. Youre, youre characterizing it correctly. Five of the six have been published. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. Prominent evangelical scholar, author, and missiologist, Ed Stetzer, is leaving his position as executive director of Wheaton Colleges The Billy Graham Center, Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a pattern of sinful behavior, James MacDonald is preaching at Generation, An Arizona megachurch has hired Landon MacDonald as a lead pastor, despite allegations MacDonald bullied and abused those in his care while. My strength is dried up, as by the heat of summer. And we had consensus from everybody in the room that James McDonald was not qualified to as an elder and that his employment at Harvest Bible Chapel was over. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. MacDonald notes in the email that about a month after the settlement, he was able to write to recipients of the email. How can we approve this? To donate, James MacDonald Ministries June 13, 2021 Email, Ed Stetzer Named Dean of Biola Universitys Talbot School of Theology, James MacDonald Preaching at ARC Megachurch in Arizona, Landon MacDonald to Lead Arizona Megachurch Despite Allegations of Abuse When at Harvest Bible Chapel, Why Businessman Peter Chung Matters for the Future of The Kings College. That was positioned as an attack from the start. And as people rotated through, there were newer people on the board, and they wouldnt have really had a lot of access to to James McDonald. The Roys Report has over 78 articles dedicated to MacDonald and/or HBC, many of which were written by Roys. Ive already told you there was consensus from board. He was the second longest tenured pastor at Harvest. If theres other passages we should be talking about, lets talk about them. And I thought, Oh, my gosh! I really am so very sick of these self-righteous, insensitive, insulting church leaders who think they are the only ones who have a hardwire connection to God preaching on the subject of wives submit to your husbands while they leave out the husbands responsibility to love their wives as Christ loved the church. And to hear that, its still got to be pretty tough to stand up to that, or at that point where you like, now I know the truth, Im moving forward. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Its more of a social teaching of extreme patriarchal churches to protect and promote the power structure of who is God-ordained to be in charge. But it was at this point that I started to reach out to Harvest and really seeking their comment on some of the things that I had heard. Harvest Bible Chapel Sues Former Members, Julie Roys for Defamation; Harvest Bible Chapel's chief information officer allegedly stole $270K; Harvest Bible Chapel to launch 'Freedom House' 90-day residential addiction recovery program ; James MacDonald Reflects on 30 Years in Ministry, #MeToo, Millennials and Future of Faith in the US Tragically . In a recent Instagram story, Visconti, pastor of Generation Church in Mesa, claimed abuse is not a biblical justification for divorce. And in an Instagram post on November 21 that received 5,621 likes Visconti wrote: A weak woman with a strong husband will become a strong woman. I think he might have and the reason I say that is that weekend, so you know, here we are on Tuesday, Tuesday, the fifth. So who is he talking about? He should sell cars or computers. This is going amongst the elders now. Thanks! I also dont believe girls (or boys) have to like certain colors or behave and dress in certain ways to be real girls/boys. I mean, I got exonerated rather quickly. And then you know, you would categorize these things. And that reminded me of something that Dan Marquardt told me. Jennifer We STILL confuse sex and gender, which leads to conflating a lot of issues when discussing this. Roys detailed evidence from former Harvest elders, employees, and members that . Right? I would listen to MacArthur, Piper and Macdonald on a regular basis. And we got to a Saturday meeting then on the ninth. And my wife, my wife and I looking at each other and going are we really doing this? The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. Hes not qualified. From the overflow of your heart your mouth (and thumbs) are speaking. And then immediately after I felt that relief, I thought of Betsy Corning. I certainly am no Bible scholar. But as, as these excerpts of James speaking as, as James did, to so many people knew that, that this was the way he really, really spoke and who he really was. it's time for the cult of personality of James MacDonald at Harvest chapter to close and the actual Bible to be opened . And again, Im going from memory, but also from what Ron Duitsman recently said. The airing accelerated the timeline. I stepped away from my computer a couple of times. And I actually requested the letter from Sandy, because Sandy had shared some things with us about what she had seen. And I thought, well, I got to read the letter. Visconti also had posts supporting far-right causes. The 8 Best Julie Roys Podcasts. I pray for the man. I said, I will confess my transgression to the Lord, and you forgave the iniquity of my sin. Dan also was in numerous meetings with James McDonald prior to his firing. She wrote about, you alluded to it, she wrote about the end of this Risen for the Nations tour when they were in Haiti. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. I at least heard of it from somebody by that point. And many who have followed this story know what James McDonald has done. Subscribe here for Pastor James' twice-weekly email devotionals straight to you inbox, plus occasional updates regarding his ministries, events, and personal news. James MacDonald and His Earlier Attacks on Julie Roys. And I remember talking to another elder and I looked at him, he was almost in tears, saying, I cant believe were not going to do what Gods word says. And all of the elders should resign and repent for what they did. The headlines really heated up after the December 2018 publication of "Hard Times at Harvest," a lengthy expos by investigative journalist Julie Roys. Theres 30 men in the room. (Proverbs 27:12). While we were doing that, I was in my office at home. 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