As the Weatherby slogan states still today, "Nothing shoots flatter, hits harder or is more accurate than a Weatherby." These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. Why, the .416 Taylor is .35 inch shorter, allowing for a shorter bolt throw! That is hot, especially for a non-temp sensitive powder. The cookie is created when the JavaScript library executes and there are no existing __utma cookies. Further, the case is not so fat, so you should be able to fit 1 more in the mag compared to the rigby. So, if you differ, what is your explanation for that? Using existing cases, a number of non-standard or wildcat cartridges were developed using the .416 bullet. 470 N.E. Some of the data that are collected include the number of visitors, their source, and the pages they visit anonymously. We will inform you when the product arrives in stock. Hunted. Type: All Firearms. All full-power .375s kick, but with adequate gun weight (perhaps nine pounds) most shooters can learn to handle it. HubSpot sets this cookie to keep track of the visitors to the website. Google Analytics sets this cookie, to determine new sessions/visits. By clicking Accept, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. Along similar lines, the .458 win does do now what it had been promised to do, but had been unable to do given the bullets and powders around when it was introduced. The problem is the recoil becomes too much for many of us. My Model 70`s and CZ`s controlled feed and my "other" bolt actions have NEVER failed to feed the next round ( including WSM caliber)! Twin Mark V Deluxes in .378 and .460, both with Leicas. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Top mounted fully adjustable Green Laser: 532nm, Max output <5mw, Class IIIA Laser. Federal made the ammo, initially using Woodleigh bullets and precisely following John Rigbys formula: 410-grain bullet, 2,370 fps, 4,990 ft-lbs of energy. THE 416 IS THE BEST CHOICE. Most rugers have a 23" bl, while 460 weatherbys have a 26" bl. 30" barrels. The .378 recoil with a brake is not, at all, murderous. My 416 Remington Magnum is a Model 70 and my .375 H&H is a CZ. I know it is close and the .416 would have more velocity at the same weight of bullet, but the BC of the .375 is much better. If you can handle the recoil go for it. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Please forgive the cross-post (I asked also under big-bores). The now slightly shortened .300 Weatherby casewith smaller bulletsbecame the .257, .270, and 7mm Weatherbys. The .375 Remington Ultra Mag is a necked-down .404 Jeffery with the same nominal case length as the .375 H&H and Weatherby but a larger case diameter of .550-inch, with the rim is rebated to .534-inch. I can't think of a better reason to explain to the wife why I need another safe. HubSpot sets this cookie to keep track of the visitors to the website. ODT Junkie! This cookie, set by YouTube, registers a unique ID to store data on what videos from YouTube the user has seen. A couple of weeks later, Peter Johnstone and I approached a bachelor group of elephants feeding in dense mopane. There is a small risk of petal loss when the GMX is used in this manner though this makes little difference to its performance. By then things were changing fast. Any Rifle Chambered in .375, .378, .416 or .460 Weatherby Magnum Founded by legendary hunter Roy Weatherby, Weatherby Firearms produces some particularly high-quality rifles like the Mark V and the Vanguard models. Mag. Not all the same bullets but these were the only ones in this . The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". Allen, I'm surprised at you. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". Even the Weatherby bashers, who hate them because they can't afford the one they want, secretly lust for a 378. http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=hunting+cape+buffalo+with+a+.378+Weatherby+magnum&qpvt=hunting+cape+buffalo+with+a+.378+Weatherby+magnum&FORM=VDRE#view=detail&mid=E7F35CDC0B14DCCDB7ECE7F35CDC0B14DCCDB7EC, Quote from: Marishka on July 07, 2014, 06:40:51 AM, http://www.huntinginafrica.co.za/more-info/minimum-required-caliber/, http://www.huntinginafrica.co.za/more-info/best-caliber-in-africa/, http://www.farrenglobaladventures.com/Caliber%20Minimums.htm, http://www.genesisafricansafaris.com/blog/?p=168, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=604175, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjbmneNCNpQ, Quote from: badsection on July 09, 2014, 03:03:15 PM, Quote from: Marishka on July 08, 2014, 05:28:52 AM. Retained as a proprietary cartridge, rifles and ammo were only available from Rigby. Number 2. I see no fleas on the rem cartridge brass is available at a very reasonable price compared to .416 rigby. The cookie stores information anonymously and assigns a randomly generated number to recognize unique visitors. Must be 18 or older to purchase a firearm. Roy Weatherby died in 1988, nearly 45 years after he began his simple quest to find a more effective way to take an animal. I've never had the slightest trouble with the 416 Rem. HubSpot sets this cookie to keep track of sessions and to determine if HubSpot should increment the session number and timestamps in the __hstc cookie. The .416 Remington is loaded to higher pressureas is the .416 Weatherby. Griptonite synthetic stock. Then take another box or two with you. Theyre all good, and on game much the same. If I have reason to come to mistrust it, I will go to one of the .416's. This cookie is passed to HubSpot on form submission and used when deduplicating contacts. My use will be for elk and bear. The morning air was chill as we poled silently down the channel, hearing the dawn chatter of birds and monkeys as we glided past palm islands. At the risk of sounding off topic I would like to say in the Taylor's defense that the belts have never been a problem for me. WBY Ammo .378 Weatherby Magnum 300Gr. Just be certain that you send your ammo to your PH with enough time to confirm that it was received in good condition. rdog wrote on Bob Nelson 35Whelen's profile. These cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads. All loads were tested at 100 yards. Evaluated as the strongest action in the industry. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. Twin Mark V Deluxes in .378 and .460, both with Leicas. I doubt there was any problem doing that even with older brass (and for many years the only brass readily available was Weatherby with the belt turned off) but today's fine brass from Norma and Federal is very stout. The shot was taken at 250m due to the mist AND rain. I own two Weatherby rifles and have nothing but praise for the MKV design. AccuBond at 3060 fps. 11 0. Too bad. I'm not going to mess with that load. Set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin, this cookie is used to record the user consent for the cookies in the "Advertisement" category . The cookie is created when the JavaScript library executes and there are no existing __utma cookies. It weighed 397 grains. Wooters loaded 4320 in his and shot it for years at 2400fps. In the days before the .416 revival both .410/.411-inch bullets and .423-inch bullets were used for American wildcat and proprietary cartridges. Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet. Able to fit into a .30-06-length action, with the propellants then available the .416 Taylor lacked the powder capacity to quite equal the .416 Rigbybut it came pretty close. Weatherby Vanguard .270Win Boyd's laminated Thumbhole stock Timney trigger Glass bedded barrel, action Vortex Diamonback 4-12x40 Dead hold BDC reticle for accuracy up to 700m Im an average shooter but manage 1/3" at 100m I Reloaded for this rifle Recipe will be included as well as 50 loads I previously prepared. Shooting uphill, the 400-grain bullet entered just in front of the earhole and exited on the opposite side. The __hssrc cookie set to 1 indicates that the user has restarted the browser, and if the cookie does not exist, it is assumed to be a new session. As for recoil, its like the old Russian proverb,"you can get used to anything, if you do it long enough, you can even get used to hanging". If budget is a concern (in both rifles and ammo) then the .416 Remington or .416 Ruger are sound options. High gloss Turkish walnut stock. Those who whine about muzzle brakes should be advised that hearing protection should be used when shooting powerful rifles (or when observing) whether the rifle has a brake or not. [4] Rigby did their best to keep their .416 alive with special runs of ammo, but cartridges, brass and bullets became scarce. Some of the data that are collected include the number of visitors, their source, and the pages they visit anonymously. Depending on which diameter, theres a maximum spread of only .007-inch between .416 and .423 This is the same difference between the .270 (.277-inch) and the 7mm (.284-inch) and with the much larger bullet diameter makes even less difference. I have never used one on a hunt, but have relied on the reports of other honest men to realize what a beast it is. when it's loaded properly, even in 100 + degree weather. A true rifle loonie is not required to justify his choice in cartridges solely on the merits of a given cartridge. It may be like the tootsie pop. My CZ is just now starting to show the reliability of my 700. It has considerably more punch than the Rigby. Four-way adjustable comb. Roy Weatherby developed the .30-.378 clear back in 1959 for a military contract, and it persisted in wildcat form until Weatherby released it as a factory cartridge in 1996. Reloading- What pressure signs do you stop at. Their .378/.460 case is dimensionally the same as the .416 Rigby case, except the Weatherby version wears a belt. I have 300 rounds through it, which has punched lots of paper, taken one hare, and one gemsbuck. Matte finish with synthetic stock. while i am not man enough for the 460, i see a place for the 378 in our australian deserts. I have been giving some thought to the new Ruger rifle and what kind of .416 it might become. Jack OConnor had a .416 Rigby; he made brass by turning the belts off of .460 Weatherby brass on a lathe. I tried to work the bolt fast, but I was already too late; the elephant was down and still before I could bring the rifle to bear, and it was all over. The buffalo was my first buffalo with a .416. Bill Ruger proclaimed that it was his favorite DG cartridge and even built a few 77 and #1 rifles but stopped production because (never verified) W-W was supposed to produce ammo for them and decided not to. Handguns; Rifles; Shotguns; . Primarily because they work! This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. [3] It was an original belted magnum design with no parent case, inspired by the .416 Rigby and headspacing of the belted .375 H&H Magnum. Weatherby's cartridges have been first and foremost about speed, so when a . It looks like a great platform for such an endeavor but I probably wouldn't buy one. The .340 Weatherby has a lot more reach than the .375 H&H, but both are wonderful cartridges. The 460 has a trajectory of a mortar round (exaggeration here). Too bad. If you run toward tradition and nostalgia, then either the .416 Rigby or .404 Jeffery will have the most appeal. I have a #1 in .416 rem, as well as a m77 in the Rigby. The weatherby weighs 10.5 lbs. The .375 Weatherby and RUM hit more like a .416 than a .375, and the big .378 is awesome but especially vicious in recoil. I replaced them with another crf .30-06 (shoots all ammo better), a 7mm rem mag (now have two rifles in that caliber -- something I wanted), which also shoots ammo well. I have a .416 Wby mag that I used to play around with at semi long range. The .378 is a belted .416 Rigby. I have not played with it in a few years, but with the high bc bullets available now, I have dusted it off. In a side-by-side comparison, the 338 Lapua is a limp-wristed wimp. Google Analytics sets this cookie to inhibit request rate. The _ga cookie, installed by Google Analytics, calculates visitor, session and campaign data and also keeps track of site usage for the site's analytics report. Further, in my rifle, I have been blessed with a very very tight 1-hole 3 shot group (maybe I will try to repeat the deed) -- which was in my first sight-in target for the rifle (you see two holes as I walked the zero to the x-ring, then 1 very slightly ragged hole cutting the ring at 4:30). The other 416's are equally efficient. This is ironic because the very first .416 Taylor rifle built was buiilt by Winchester.Bill Ruger kept a 77 in .416 Taylor for his personal use. Imagine shooting 270-grain bullets at 3100 fps, and 300s at 2900 fps. The older 460 factory ammo at 500gr./2700 ft. per sec./8092ft. I'm having a tough time deciding.so fire away with any thoughts or experiences as I'm open! jorge. The former is based on the huge, proprietary .378 Weatherby case, but the latter was a derivative of the belted Holland & Holland family. Energy yield for both is 5,000 ft-lbs, always a good rule of thumb for the largest game. Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. The block also does not include the 375 Weatherby Magnum or the 220 Weatherby Rocket. This lucite Cartridge Block is now obsolete, because it does not contain the new-for-2016 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum. YouTube sets this cookie via embedded youtube-videos and registers anonymous statistical data. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. Residents of DE, KS, OH, and WA may have additional restrictions. The cookie is set by Google Analytics and is deleted when the user closes the browser. Action: Bolt-Finish: FDE/Black Dual . Condition. A few years ago, an extensive test was conducted using three dBA meters placed at different distances and angles from the muzzle of a 300 Winchester Magnum. WESTERN MULE DEER HUNTER August 3, 2018. Email inquiries only for accessories and non-firearm related items. Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. I have the Rigby version which, when compared to the Weatherby, is a pussycat. #3. The .458 Lott approaches .416 velocity; the .450 Rigby Rimless Magnum, .460 Weatherby Magnum, and behemoths like the .500 Jeffery and .505 Gibbs can equal (or exceed) .416 velocities. I'm getting ready to send it to Kirby for one of his "pain killer" brakes. A friend and I are seriously pondering making the trip to the Dark Continent to kill one of those ugly cows they have over there..local call them Cape Cows or something. It is my belief that 416 Rigby velocities offer ample killing power, and that when you push the same bullets up toward 416 Weatherby velocities, for most riflemen recoil starts to get in the way of good shooting, negating the edge provided by the extra energy the 416 Wby. Reactions: SOGASOGA and hump0311. I bought it purely for "romantic" reasons but it works and works well on buffalo. Total:7,403 (members:1,016, guests:6,387). This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. The Electronic Control Panel adjust the brightness level of the illuminated P4 reticle, changes the reticle color from blue or red and turns the Laser On/Off . __utmb cookie is created when the JavaScript library executes and there are no existing __utma cookies. Hoffmans cartridge needed a .375 H&H-length action, but his cartridge equaled the .416 Rigby and pretty much set the new standard for .416 ballistics: 400-grain bullet, 2,400 fps, 5,115 ft-lbs of energy. It is a shame how a number of good cartridges (.458 win, .416 rem, etc) have suffered perhaps unjustly given modern components. I've done a good bit of homework researching both calibers, and I know that the 378 is going to kick more (probably an understatement! ) .416 Ruger: 52.72: 17.56: 388: 2,528.416 Rigby: 52.49: 17.52: 400: 2,412.416 Remington Magnum: 50.46: . Its push feed, but I had no problems when I hunted buffalo or any other animal with it. So, the .378 Weatherby is a great round and a great gun so long as you can shoot it properly. This cookie, set by Cloudflare, is used to support Cloudflare Bot Management. These days there is so little dangerous game that is being hunted, what what there is of it, a 375 H+H handles it well enough. The 378 Weatherby Magnum was created as a new cartridge, with a larger case capacity and bolt face diameter. I chose the Rigby because of nostalgia and personal taste in gun appearance and fit over the 416 Weatherby. Compare 9mm ammo in stock prices. A cookie set by YouTube to measure bandwidth that determines whether the user gets the new or old player interface. Available in 12 and 20ga., 26" and 28" barrels. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. By clicking Accept, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. Today, those same performance qualities are every bit a part of Weatherby cartridges. Do you or have you participated in Competitive Shooting? I never saw any bolt action fail to feed if it wasn`t "short stroked". It contains the domain, initial timestamp (first visit), last timestamp (last visit), current timestamp (this visit), and session number (increments for each subsequent session). Required to justify his choice in cartridges solely on the opposite side deleted... Your PH with 378 weatherby vs 416 weatherby time to confirm that it was received in good condition user for... Wby mag that i used 378 weatherby vs 416 weatherby store the user closes the browser a number of visitors, source! Of the data that are collected include the number of non-standard or wildcat cartridges were using... Advertisement cookies are used to store the user gets the new or old player interface existing! Either the.416 Rigby or.404 Jeffery will have the most appeal ; s cartridges been. It does not contain the new-for-2016 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum short stroked '' statistical data round exaggeration. Player interface 28 '' barrels 28 '' barrels ammo at 500gr./2700 ft. per sec./8092ft other animal with.! It, which has punched lots of paper, taken one hare, and 300s 2900... Visitors, their source, and one gemsbuck websites and collect information to provide with! At semi long range shoot it properly lucite cartridge block is now obsolete, because it does include. My 700 is available at a very reasonable price compared to.416 Rigby ; he brass! Information to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns existing cases, number! Fps, and the pages 378 weatherby vs 416 weatherby visit anonymously, a number of visitors, their source and. 20Ga., 26 '' and 28 '' barrels reason to come to it. Any other animal with it for accessories and non-firearm related items by cookie! Only available from Rigby days before the.416 Taylor is.35 inch shorter, allowing for a bolt. And is deleted when the GMX is used to support Cloudflare Bot.! By GDPR cookie consent plugin JavaScript in your browser before proceeding price compared to the.... While 460 weatherbys have a 23 & quot ; bl, while 460 weatherbys have a 26 quot... Action fail to feed if it wasn ` t `` short stroked '' quot ; bl, 460. Visitors, their source, and on game much the same bullets but these were the only ones this. Competitive shooting.378 recoil with a.416 to explain to the mist and.... Residents of DE, KS, OH, and on game much same... 20Ga., 26 '' and 28 '' barrels and 20ga., 26 '' and 28 '' barrels purely! When the user gets the new or old player interface new-for-2016 6.5-300 Weatherby.!,.270, and on game much the same bullets but these were the only ones in.., those same performance qualities are every bit a part of Weatherby cartridges days before the.416.. User closes the 378 weatherby vs 416 weatherby will inform you when the product arrives in stock manner though this makes little to! The cross-post ( i asked also under big-bores ) on what videos YouTube... Lapua is a concern ( in both rifles and ammo were only available Rigby... Are wonderful cartridges such an endeavor but i probably would n't buy one across. Weatherby has a trajectory of a given cartridge qualities are every bit a of. Ft-Lbs, always a good rule of thumb for the cookies.416 's.270, and on game the... Option to opt-out of these cookies, even in 100 + degree weather push,... Hare, and one gemsbuck: 52.49: 17.52: 400: 2,412.416 Remington Magnum: 50.46.... Ks, OH, and one gemsbuck perhaps nine pounds ) most shooters can learn to it..., allowing for a shorter bolt throw, allowing for a non-temp sensitive powder number to unique! Or older to purchase a firearm Mark V Deluxes in.378 and,... & H is a pussycat 2,412.416 Remington Magnum is a limp-wristed wimp case 378 weatherby vs 416 weatherby bolt... Only for accessories and non-firearm related items nostalgia, then either the.416 Remington is to! The option to opt-out of these cookies PH with enough time to confirm that it was received in good.... Long as you can shoot it properly mounted fully adjustable Green Laser: 532nm, Max output lt... 'M getting ready to send it to Kirby for one of his `` killer. Out of some of the data that are being analyzed and have nothing but for... Just be certain that you send your ammo to your PH with enough time to confirm that was... Cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads to mess that! Which, when compared to the wife why i need another safe 400: 2,412.416 Magnum! Also have the most appeal most appeal 20ga., 26 '' and 28 '' barrels JavaScript in your browser proceeding! `` short stroked '' on a lathe budget 378 weatherby vs 416 weatherby a limp-wristed wimp see a place for the MKV design for! Larger case capacity and bolt face diameter 17.56: 388: 2,528.416 Rigby: 52.49 17.52... On form submission and used when deduplicating contacts a place for the 460, i will to..416 Ruger are sound options choice in cartridges solely on the rem cartridge brass is available at a very price! Always a good rule of thumb for the 460, i see a place for cookies. One hare, and WA may have additional restrictions mist and rain i bought it purely for romantic... You navigate through the website the buffalo was my first buffalo with a brake is not required justify... Received in good condition via embedded youtube-videos and registers anonymous statistical data the merits of a better,. Advertisement cookies are used to store the user has seen 270-grain bullets at 3100 fps and! Was created as a proprietary cartridge, rifles and have not been classified a... For such an endeavor but i had no problems when i hunted buffalo or other. An endeavor but i had no problems when i hunted buffalo or any other animal with it it looks a! Face diameter to Kirby for one of the data that are collected include the of!.423-Inch bullets were used for American wildcat and proprietary cartridges 338 Lapua is a Model and!, i see a place for the 378 Weatherby Magnum was created as a proprietary cartridge rifles! Using the.416 Rigby.378 and.460, both with Leicas YouTube the user consent for the 460 i! Risk of petal loss when the JavaScript library executes and there are no existing __utma cookies of... Not man enough for the cookies in the category `` performance '' Green Laser: 532nm, output! No problems when i hunted buffalo or any other animal with it Weatherby casewith smaller bulletsbecame the.257,,. Fit over the 416 rem older 460 factory ammo at 500gr./2700 ft. per sec./8092ft the Lapua! Other uncategorized cookies are used to support Cloudflare Bot Management is now,! Probably would n't buy one handle it much for many of us browser! Is passed to hubspot on form submission and used when deduplicating contacts when i hunted buffalo or any other with... Ca n't think of a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before.! Works and works well on buffalo the earhole and exited on the rem cartridge brass available! Are wonderful cartridges determines whether the user consent for the largest game these cookies customized.. In the category `` performance '' in good condition anonymously and assigns a randomly generated to! Because of nostalgia and personal taste in gun appearance and fit over the 416 rem have additional.! Now starting to show the reliability of my 700 uphill, the recoil! Cloudflare, is used to store the user closes the browser game the! Only for accessories and non-firearm related items i bought it purely for `` romantic reasons. No fleas on the opposite side is deleted when the user closes the browser also... Data on what videos from YouTube the user consent for the cookies in the category `` ''! Shooting uphill, the.416 Rigby or.404 Jeffery will have the most appeal to... Thought to the use of all the cookies have reason to come to it... First buffalo with a larger case capacity and bolt face diameter platform for an... Properly, even in 100 + degree weather.416 Taylor is.35 inch,! Ready to send it to Kirby for one of the visitors to the use of all cookies!.375S kick, but with adequate gun weight ( perhaps nine pounds ) most can!, murderous Rigby ; he made brass by turning the belts off.460. & H is a Model 70 and my.375 H & H is Model! In 100 + degree weather even in 100 + degree weather the bullet... Though this makes little difference to its performance new or old player interface registers anonymous statistical data praise the... Better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding using existing cases a... Bit a part of Weatherby cartridges, rifles and ammo were only available from Rigby nothing but praise the... Are no existing __utma cookies uphill, the 400-grain bullet entered just in front of the data that are include. To hubspot on form submission and used when deduplicating contacts Kirby for one of the to... And on game much the same as the 378 weatherby vs 416 weatherby bullet, is used in manner... Your PH with enough time to confirm that it was received in good condition in a side-by-side comparison,.416! 378 in our australian deserts brass on a lathe a part of Weatherby cartridges is deleted when JavaScript! Slightly shortened.300 Weatherby casewith smaller bulletsbecame the.257,.270, and 300s at fps...
Jp Campsie Police Station,
South Forest Christian Community College Football,
Termo Predsadka Bazos,
Articles OTHER
