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Michael Jackson: 10/10 Yes 20. -You can place as many artists as you want at each level, however each level must have equal to more of the amount of artists than the level before it (For example: Level 1 can have 1 artist, Level 2 can have 3 artists, Level 3 can then have 3 artists also, but Level 4 can't have 2 or less, but it can have 3 or more. "Who's Gonna Take The Blame" Capone N. Noreaga (as the basis of their song "Live On Live Long"). https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2020/01/every-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductee-ranked-from-best-to-bon-jovi.html He didn't make ESPN's recent list of the 74 best players ever which is straight dumb. Journey (Believe me, people I've talked to actually think that!) Ken Cook WAGA-TV 2015 71. Can't see any update yet. Their music and songs have influenced artists all over the world in every major musical genre over the last 50 years. 3. Dave DeBusschere, 52. Are you serious? Sex Pistols: 9/10 -------------------------------------------------- Alice Cooper: 7/10 Meanest: Jerry Lee Lewis, Sid Vicious, Little Willie John. Biggie Smalls-4 Looks like this has been updated. Brenda Lee: 6/10 Though if Davis and Simon couldn't be Level 2 I don't see Parton sadly. Admittedly quite bad, but he's already represented without the halo effect. Level 4 Posted by The Dude on Friday, 01/11/2019 @ 18:40pm, Posted by The Dude on Friday, 01/11/2019 @ 18:43pm. In my honest opinion, Rush should also be placed a lot higher, at least, preferably in the middle of the 4th tier, slightly lower than Pink Floyd and slightly below, soon to be inducted, Yes. Some QUALIFYING QUESTIONS: "If You Can Want" The Dirtbombs, Barbara McNair, Chazz Dixon. If artist X is in, why isn't artist Y? Bruce Springsteen, Chuck D, Smokey Robinson, Curtis Mayfield, Fats Domino and Darlene Love 19. And how in the hell did Radiohead get on level 4? 184. Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 05/11/2019 @ 04:26am. That said, the O'Jays' and the Mamas And The Papas' scores of O.000 is absolutely ludicrous, if for no other reason than saying they have no "Fame" to their name is utterly absurd. 137. Simon & Garfunkel, I assume (or some doo-wop stuff). Posted by The_Claw on Friday, 01/26/2018 @ 04:11am. Tom Waits Kevin Garnett, 24. You love him. He's going to jump 30-40 spots regardless. And how the hell could OKC ever trade James Harden after Game 5? Move Fleetwood Mac to 4. "Looks like this has been updated. Ruth Brown: 8/10 Level 1 Hell, one of the most commercially successful pop-rock bands of the 21st century (Nickelback) consider Metallica as their biggest influence. 7/10 = Solid Picks 2013 REM and Tom Petty do, and they are two more acts Radiohead should not be ranked higher than. Depeche Mode, T.Rex, Nine Inch Nails, and Whitney are all incredibly low. This isn't a situation where being part of a psuedo-dynasty elevates him up 10-15 spots. Fats Domino, Smokey Robinson, Carole King and Curtis Mayfield David Bowie The best of the best. "I Don't Blame You At All" - Rosetta Hightower. Depeche Mode-Level 2 208. 105. One of those guys that if you were up 2 with a minute left in a big playoff game and the ball found a wide open Manu from 3, everyone was sure he was nailing the shot. Depeche Mode (Level 2) Gladys Knight & The Pips: 7/10 Dirk Nowitski (up from Level 2, below Mikan). No. Little Anthony & The Imperials: 6/10 King Level 3 No. Clyde McPhatter: 8/10 "Ooo Baby Baby" Linda Ronstadt, Brenda Holloway, Shalamar, Ruby Turner, Sylvester, Spirit Traveler, Five Stairsteps, Zapp, Laura Nyro, Ella Fitzgerald, Honey Cone, Human Nature, Fingazz Tier 1 - Nina Simone, Bon Jovi, Journey, Joan Baez Genesis: 7/10 4/10 = Marginal The Doobie Brothers-Level 1 If Liny Wray was inducted, he would be on four. "Ooo Baby Baby" Linda Ronstadt, Brenda Holloway, Shalamar, Ruby Turner, Sylvester, Spirit Traveler, Five Stairsteps, Zapp, Laura Nyro, Ella Fitzgerald, Honey Cone, Human Nature, Fingazz Randy Newman (middle 2nd) Bon Jovi: 4/10 N.W.A: 9/10 On which levels do you think each of these artists belongs? If we remove people who probably killed someone from contention, Paul Stanley's complete lack of grace during the induction process stands out. The Paul Butterfield Blues Band: 3/10 Creedence Clearwater Revival As for the newer inductees, Otis Redding 129. Call it elitist, call it exclusionary, but I've experienced a major shift in how I listen to music and evaluate it. The Pretenders 7. 140. -Most unworthy? The Who: 10/10 120. The Grateful Dead: 9/10 Several, though I'll use Bill Haley & the Comets, since they're the first in line here, as I see it. Deep Purple a 1???" I would also move Buddy Holly And The Crickets up to the top. 157. Isaac Hayes: 7/10 Whitney Houston-5 I would've put Whitney Houston at Level 2, or 3 at most, because of how commercially successful she was and influenced a lot of singers to this day. Probably Percy Sledge A great scorer, but I'm not sure he was ever a good enough all-around player to be the best player on a champ despite that one year with the Nuggets. Rage Against the Machine (Level 1 or 2) 10/10 = Immortals, Legends & Icons Duran Duran (Level 1 or 2) Posted by williams on Monday, 10/21/2019 @ 09:31am, The 2020 inductees Dolly Parton: 9/10 They gave her a Jehova's Witness pitch and when they left they just drove off. 5/10 = Average/Borderline The Notorious B.I.G: 8/10 107. Dire Straits 1987 Hank Williams 8. Posted by John R.C. -Most influential? Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04/28/2016 @ 05:27am. Over the past two-three years, I've become heavily enamored with blues, jazz, bluegrass, country/western, and even old Tin Pan Alley/classic standards. 9. The Stooges (Level 3) New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. . Posted by AlexVoltaire on Tuesday, 12/22/2015 @ 18:33pm. Underrated by casual fans as a defensive player, but did make All-D in '18-'19. I'm sure that you all accept that INFLUENCE is one of the most important factors in Musical Greatness. B. Posted by Kyle on Saturday, 09/8/2018 @ 20:45pm, Is anyone ever going to be added to that top rung? Posted by Zach on Thursday, 11/27/2014 @ 23:32pm. That's who he is. 38. 2/10 = Failure Janet Jackson But I was thinking of Dr. John too. 57. Most of them look like 1s or 2s. 225. Where does his beard rank among the NBAs greatest facial hairstyles ever? on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 20:26pm, 1. If no one here had an interest in anything earlier than the Beatles, I wouldn't be coming here to gush over Buddy Holly or Fats Waller. Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 01/2/2019 @ 04:20am. Bill breaks it all down with The Ringers Joe House. Fats Domino It's not the first time I've seen them being underrated. 224. Simmons believes that Nolan Ryan was a Tier 4 Baseball HoFer, while acknowledging that several people wouldn't put Nolan Ryan in the Hall at all. 188. Buddy Holly & The Crickets: 10/10 Curtis Mayfield: 9/10 Tupac Shakur No. Most nicest inductee? 6/10 = Decent Artists I know Bill has him higher, but he doesn't have the body of work just yet. Inductee that should have been first-ballot (again, don't answer Rush*)? Stockton at 30 and CP3 at 42. La Bomba [same thing] He was truly unique in his play style. 2. Did they have transcendent songs and albums or memorable moments? "More, More, More of Your Love" Bob Brady & the Con Chords Bowies, Springsteen, Aretha (at least! Albert King (lower 3rd) All the Lord of The Rings films Jimmy Cliff T.Rex-Level 3 Nine Inch Nails-2 The Ronettes: 6/10 Here's part 2 of the rating the performers. I would like to see it. 1989 The Ink Spots t. rex - 2, Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 03/24/2020 @ 17:21pm, When this pyramid was constructed, there were (IIRC) approximately 180 performer acts in the R&R HoF. Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 01/29/2015 @ 19:58pm. Fats Domino 3. The Doobie Brothers: 6/10 7. I've hated Young's music since my teen years, when I was in my rockist phase (Rather odd saying that, considering Young is a rockist fave). Not too many others, outside of one or two really obvious choices. 7. 34. 161. It's fine. Michael Jordan Bill Russell Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Magic Johnson Larry Bird Wilt Chamberlain Tim Duncan Kobe Bryant Jerry West Oscar Robertson This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast 0 33 Related Topics Most snubbed before finally inducted: Neil Diamond, hands down. Hal Greer, 54. During a time period when Nirvana were pretty much single handedly destroying the metal scene, and metal kids were becoming grunge kids, they released the most iconic metal tune of all time, in an album that sold around 30 million copies. 1990 Ma Rainey 1997 14. Jefferson Airplane "Much Better Off" J Dilla. The Moody Blues 1995 The Orioles Ricky Nelson: 9/10 Scott Slade Cox Media Group. Is the top rung ever going to be added to? I can agree that, despite the deep and wide influence he had on many Rock stars, that Ray Charles himself was never marketed as or claimed to be a Rock and Roll performer. They were that good, and everybody knew it. Both haven't been to the Finals. The Paul Butterfield Blues Band 165. . They are certainly not on the level of Bowie, Springsteen, Aretha, or Nirvana, even Michael. But, to each their own. 43. I can name more than one song by Costello (come on, at least give him Pump it Up), but I really don't see a career that matches up well against The Talking Heads in terms of influence, innovation or popularity. I would also move Talking Heads up to the 4th tier. 55. Not to be too much of a Ramones basher, but look at the bands they rated above. Corey Finn, Bernard King, 66. Lloyd Price: 4/10 Albert King De Bravo, Little Willie G., Oran "Juice" Jones. Monty Python & The Holy Grail Where would you change things up? 194. He could've gone anywhere, but to Golden State and nobody would've held a grudge outside of those weirdos in Oklahoma. 6. Clearly one of the 10 best players in the league in the latter half of this decade, but got saddled with an incompetent front office. Level 5 Nicest: I'd like to think Buddy Holly would get this one, if he were still alive. I'd rather they be a 3, but a lot of those 3s are untouchable. "You've Got The Love I Need" - J Dilla, Raekwon. Outside of Madonna, 2008 was a stellar year. Metallica Was Kazaam better than Steel? Listen, he's going to win his 2nd MVP award at some point in the next few months. Lou Reed: 7/10 It's just so overexposed and repetitive that I can no longer find any enjoyment in that type of music. Posted by Follower on Friday, 01/11/2019 @ 18:37pm. Talking Heads The Little Mermaid 33. Either Sam Cooke, Fats Domino, Roy Orbison, or anyone from Motown (remember, they were taught how to move about at high society functions). The Pretenders (Level 2) 150. The Moody Blues Def Leppard 7. Alex English. Magic, 4. 2008 207. Please enter a valid email and try again. As Bob is the highest tier when compared to anyone who picks up an acoustic guitar and tries to sing a folkish tune. 5. 2002 AC/DC The inductees on Level 1 on the other hand, are often the reason the Rock Hall makes so many people crazy. I agree The Miracles are definitely a Level-4 act and agree with every word of your post. The Who, The Kinks, Public Enemy, Sex Pistols and Muddy Waters 48. The Ronettes Simmons led . John Lennon: 10/10 Jerry Lee Lewis The Flamingos: 6/10 Tina Turner is solely on Level 2 for star power and that's it. ABBA And when is Poco going to move up. Four All-NBA appearances, six All-Stars, 2nd best or 3rd best player on 4 champs and a runner-up. The Zombies 7. Linda Ronstadt: 7/10 -Hard to say ultimately, it's really about the music and their commitment to it. 68. Which performers you think will be the next inductees? Little Willie John "The Love I Saw In You Was Just a Mirage" The Jackson 5, Vance Gilbert, The Uniques Loudest other then metal: THe Rolling Stones, The Kinks, The Who, The Stooges, Public Enemy, Dave Clark Five. Posted by Corey Finn on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 14:23pm, 2022 inductees: Parker had a 12 year run where he was never the best point guard in the league, but he might've been the most important. Level 4: I got it mixed up. 2010 Great concept! Posted by John R.C. 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